Comments on: Do not search http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/ as a cultural genetic code Thu, 17 May 2012 23:25:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Hawk http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-196 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:44:33 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-196 >>Jossy92 Thanks for your opinion. And that is what I want to tell through the PoIC. :) We should enjoy discovery and connect it to a personal productivity. >>Jossy92

Thanks for your opinion. And that is what I want to tell through the PoIC. :)

We should enjoy discovery and connect it to a personal productivity.

]]> by: Jossy92 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-179 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:28:35 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-179 For me, Hawk's system gives the ability to let go of myr ideas, knowing that they are still there (in the cards). Deleting an index card would intere with my ability to let go of my ideas because then it would be gone forever. Once I have "let go", turning my attention to being able to search for those cards means I really haven't let go. I am wasting RAM on old content rather than letting it create new content. I appreciate being able to let go and sepating it from projects/search which may or may not come later. This is my understanding (as a beginner). Just my opinion. For me, Hawk’s system gives the ability to let go of myr ideas, knowing that they are still there (in the cards).

Deleting an index card would intere with my ability to let go of my ideas because then it would be gone forever.

Once I have “let go”, turning my attention to being able to search for those cards means I really haven’t let go.

I am wasting RAM on old content rather than letting it create new content.

I appreciate being able to let go and sepating it from projects/search which may or may not come later.

This is my understanding (as a beginner).

Just my opinion.

]]> by: Hawk http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-176 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:26:00 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-176 >>jeebs, Danny I still have many questions for you :) What are you going to do with your 'index cards' exactly? What for? How do you use them? >>jeebs, Danny

I still have many questions for you :)

What are you going to do with your ‘index cards’ exactly?

What for?

How do you use them?

]]> by: Hawk http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-164 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:57:49 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-164 >>Danny As I wrote, my opinion is that a search process comes very last stage of a project. Until this time, 'do not search'. >>Danny

As I wrote, my opinion is that a search process comes very last stage of a project. Until this time, ‘do not search’.

]]> by: Danny http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-158 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:26:23 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-158 If searching is not encouraged, index cards should be discarded once they have been written. It's like purging an inbox of all your emails once you have read them. Perhaps there is a value in searching the past. If only to remind yourself of certain details that have been forgotten. If searching is not encouraged, index cards should be discarded once they have been written. It’s like purging an inbox of all your emails once you have read them. Perhaps there is a value in searching the past. If only to remind yourself of certain details that have been forgotten.

]]> by: Hawk http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-125 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:47:29 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-125 >>jeevs Several additional questions. 1) please show the source for this, >my argument It sounds me like you are going to return 'before' Noguchi filing system. Anyway, if it works well for you, please report. ;) 2) You always give me useful comments about card system. If possible, I would like to see your card system and file system by my eyes. I really appreciate your pictures on flickr. I'm interested in how people actually organize their life. :) >>jeevs

Several additional questions.

1) please show the source for this,
>my argument

It sounds me like you are going to return ‘before’ Noguchi filing system.
Anyway, if it works well for you, please report. ;)

2) You always give me useful comments about card system.
If possible, I would like to see your card system and file system by my eyes.
I really appreciate your pictures on flickr.
I’m interested in how people actually organize their life. :)

]]> by: Hawk http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-109 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:00:29 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-109 >>jeevs Thanks jeevs. About 'index' card : it sounds me like numbering all stones used in the pyramid. What is important for us is not to manage stones, but to construct the pyramid. Is the 'index'ing really worth to do as preparation of the construction? I think a chronological order (time axis) is the best way to accumulate information, especially for personal file system. This is only way to achieve this in sterss-free state. But when organizing Task Force, we don't need mind the time stamp. This time, only content is important. The time stamp become secondary or thirdary importance. >>jeevs

Thanks jeevs.

About ‘index’ card : it sounds me like numbering all stones used in the pyramid. What is important for us is not to manage stones, but to construct the pyramid. Is the ‘index’ing really worth to do as preparation of the construction?

I think a chronological order (time axis) is the best way to accumulate information, especially for personal file system. This is only way to achieve this in sterss-free state. But when organizing Task Force, we don’t need mind the time stamp. This time, only content is important. The time stamp become secondary or thirdary importance.

]]> by: jeevs sinclair http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-64 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:54:34 +0000 http://pileofindexcards.org/blog/2007/02/16/do-not-search/#comment-64 This is an interesting thought, to say goodbye to search. I think (full-text) search-ability is the single biggest advantage to computer based filing systems. It becomes very valuable to be able to instantly find <i>everything</i> you've ever written {thought/recorded} related to a specific keyword/tag because it can help to give you full overview of what you know/do with that tag. I don't think it would be impossible to create, perhaps as a part of your weekly review, an 'index' card with the titles/tags-per-time, this could make searching much easier and it could also be culminated into a bigger review/index, perhaps per tag rather than per time. Granted it's worth noting that this would, over time, likely grow to become a very large database especially considering the size/usage of your system. It is interesting to consider the possibility of a tagging system in this paper world, perhaps having specially marked (easily accessible) index cards for each tag you could more easily sort through all of your cards in an efficient manner. I don't think it's okay to say no to search-ability, I think having time as your only axis can be a little dangerous because not all context is temporal. Interestingly, in some ways, this coincides (perhaps opposingly) with my argument for the Noguchi system in that I want to revamp the dependence on time in exchange for a fuller appreciation of the context of the card's content. I do recognize that time is a part of the context but I think, oftentimes, it is not the most significant. cheers jeevs This is an interesting thought, to say goodbye to search. I think (full-text) search-ability is the single biggest advantage to computer based filing systems. It becomes very valuable to be able to instantly find everything you’ve ever written {thought/recorded} related to a specific keyword/tag because it can help to give you full overview of what you know/do with that tag. I don’t think it would be impossible to create, perhaps as a part of your weekly review, an ‘index’ card with the titles/tags-per-time, this could make searching much easier and it could also be culminated into a bigger review/index, perhaps per tag rather than per time.
Granted it’s worth noting that this would, over time, likely grow to become a very large database especially considering the size/usage of your system.
It is interesting to consider the possibility of a tagging system in this paper world, perhaps having specially marked (easily accessible) index cards for each tag you could more easily sort through all of your cards in an efficient manner.
I don’t think it’s okay to say no to search-ability, I think having time as your only axis can be a little dangerous because not all context is temporal. Interestingly, in some ways, this coincides (perhaps opposingly) with my argument for the Noguchi system in that I want to revamp the dependence on time in exchange for a fuller appreciation of the context of the card’s content. I do recognize that time is a part of the context but I think, oftentimes, it is not the most significant.

cheers
jeevs

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